{"id":936,"date":"2023-01-24T15:57:08","date_gmt":"2023-01-24T19:57:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/?p=936"},"modified":"2025-07-09T23:20:43","modified_gmt":"2025-07-10T03:20:43","slug":"baseball-hall-of-fame-2023","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/posts\/baseball-hall-of-fame-2023\/","title":{"rendered":"Baseball Hall of Fame 2023"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I posted a hypothetical hall of fame ballot way back in <a href=\"http:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/posts\/baseball_hof_2007\/\">2007<\/a> and decided to do this year&#8217;s version before they announce the result. There are 28 players on the list, half of them for the first time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Scott Rolen &#8211; Almost<br \/>Todd Helton &#8211; No<br \/>Billy Wagner &#8211; No<br \/>Andruw Jones &#8211; No<br \/>Gary Sheffield &#8211; No<br \/>Alex Rodriguez &#8211; Yes<br \/>Jeff Kent &#8211; Almost<br \/>Manny Ramirez &#8211; Yes<br \/>Omar Vizquel &#8211; No<br \/>Andy Pettitte &#8211; No<br \/>Jimmy Rollins &#8211; No<br \/>Bobby Abreu &#8211; No<br \/>Mark Buehrle &#8211; No<br \/>Torii Hunter &#8211; No<br \/>Carlos Beltr\u00e1n &#8211; Almost<br \/>John Lackey &#8211; No<br \/>Jered Weaver &#8211; No<br \/>Jacoby Ellsbury &#8211; No<br \/>Matt Cain &#8211; No<br \/>Jhonny Peralta &#8211; No<br \/>Jayson Werth &#8211; No<br \/>J.J. Hardy &#8211; No<br \/>Mike Napoli &#8211; No<br \/>Bronson Arroyo &#8211; No<br \/>R.A. Dickey &#8211; No<br \/>Francisco Rodr\u00edguez &#8211; No<br \/>Andre Ethier &#8211; No<br \/>Huston Street &#8211; No<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also, Fred McGriff was elected by one of the committees this year. To me McGriff represents possibly the best example of the &#8220;small hall&#8221; versus &#8220;big hall&#8221; points of view. The small hall thinks admission should be only for those whose greatness is beyond a shadow of a doubt, wheras the large hall thinks admission is a good capstone for a career full of solid contributions. There have been a little over 20,000 players to play major league baseball, and 270 are in the Hall of Fame, so about 1.35%, though if you filter out the number who only played a few games or even a single season, we&#8217;re probably in the 2-3% range. The small hall crowd thinks this should probably be closer to 1%, the large hall is probably more like 5%.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If forced to choose, I would probably land on the small hall side. I look at players like McGriff and Andrew Jones and think they were fantastic players that I would have loved to have on my team, but am I going to reminisce about how dominant they were? No. I&#8217;d actually like to see a tiered system where it&#8217;s not all or nothing, but we can give these players a more visible place in history while also recognizing those we felt we were lucky to see play, but that&#8217;s a post for another day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Yeses<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>As mentioned in 2007, steroids is still a factor, and in 16 years little progress has been made in how to handle that. My only two votes on this years ballots both had suspensions for PEDs late in a career that would have been automatic HoF status up to that point, but they will likely never get in from the writers&#8217; voting as a result of the suspensions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Almosts<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Carlos Beltr\u00e1n might make it eventually after a long and solid career, but is likely in the penalty box for the Astros cheating scandal, so we&#8217;ll think about him next year.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Scott Rolen and Jeff Kent were great all-around players but I&#8217;d put them in the same tier as McGrifff.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Todd Helton played half his games in a hitter&#8217;s wonderland and put together a few great seasons and a few good ones, but not enough to make the cut for me.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I posted a hypothetical hall of fame ballot way back in 2007 and decided to do this year&#8217;s version before they announce the result. There are 28 players on the list, half of them for the first time. Scott Rolen &#8211; AlmostTodd Helton &#8211; NoBilly Wagner &#8211; NoAndruw Jones &#8211; NoGary Sheffield &#8211; NoAlex Rodriguez&hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"simppeli-read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/posts\/baseball-hall-of-fame-2023\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Baseball Hall of Fame 2023<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[417],"tags":[],"series":[],"class_list":["post-936","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-baseball-sports-2"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1AkJt-f6","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/936","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=936"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/936\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":937,"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/936\/revisions\/937"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=936"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=936"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=936"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/efsavage.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=936"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}